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Smile Like Umean It · Jan 05, 2008, 01:25 AM // 01:25

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Originally Posted by Tr33zon

Wintersday Dwarf has no cage. Why doesn't he just run away? :>

It's like when people get kidnapped and brainwashed. They get all docile and everything.

Poor little dude.

Nyktos · Jan 05, 2008, 02:35 AM // 02:35

I expected this to happen, so I made sure to trade in all my shards before the event ended. But I forgot that gifts can give shards, so I didn't bother opening the gifts right away (I was supposed to be asleep at the time). I opened the gifts earlier today, so now I have 30 more shards

**cosyfiep** · Jan 05, 2008, 02:48 AM // 02:48

yep time to fill up my storage mule again with items that I didnt manage to get over to the collectors (and more of the dumb shards that were dropping wellllllll past the end of the whole thing, its horrible to get a cc shard drop in DOA!)...now I just hope that all the crude I have been hoarding from the canthan new year will be of use this time around (really want a celestial RAT!!!

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Syntonic · Jan 05, 2008, 04:02 AM // 04:02

Was it really all that sudden? I mean, they did call those events the finale and you knew when those events would end.

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–noun
1. the last piece, division, or movement of a concert, opera, or composition.
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HayesA · Jan 05, 2008, 04:38 AM // 04:38

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Originally Posted by Shadowmoon

yeah i mean alot of people were spending time tryign to grind a polar bear that it existance was only confirmed AFTER the finale on the last day. dont' understand the harm of leaving the gift collector in for one or week, liek with the victory token npc for cantha new years.

QFT. I agree fully. I love how that mini came out on the last day of the event. I had a good laugh or two about the whole thing.

IlikeGW · Jan 05, 2008, 04:56 AM // 04:56

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Originally Posted by Syntonic

Was it really all that sudden? I mean, they did call those events the finale and you knew when those events would end.

It was sudden because all the stuff was STILL THERE for 12 hours so no one knew what was going on. They let people keep getting more shards, doing quests, and so on... Then it just blinked out of existence while people were in missions/doing other stuff. You couldn't even hold back the update, it was a timed thing, giving people really the least possible warning.

Dryndalyn · Jan 07, 2008, 12:36 AM // 00:36

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Originally Posted by IlikeGW

It was sudden because all the stuff was STILL THERE for 12 hours so no one knew what was going on. They let people keep getting more shards, doing quests, and so on... Then it just blinked out of existence while people were in missions/doing other stuff. You couldn't even hold back the update, it was a timed thing, giving people really the least possible warning.

I agree - it was sudden and there is still no sign that the gift-giver will return. Yet I can't think of any motive Anet would have not to bring him back. It doesn't make sense that shards are were still dropping when there was no place to turn them in. Very strange.

IlikeGW · Jan 07, 2008, 12:52 AM // 00:52

Yeah, it's screwed up. Oh well, grinding them down to dust for a small savings on dust... woot?

Gaile Gray · Jan 07, 2008, 01:42 AM // 01:42

Sorry to hear about your concerns. Here's what I can tell you: The collectors were in place for 36 hours after the event finale. They were coded to go away at Noon Pacific on Wednesday. This was felt by the design team to be a sufficient amount of time for players to do last minute transactions. However... I do hear your two concerns:

There was no warning about the collectors leaving town
The shards continued to drop after you had a means to turn them in

I will pass along your thoughts on both of these situations. I think that we should include a "collector departure date" on the events page. Heck, we might even include it on the log-in screen, as one of the messages in the upper right. Something like: "NPCs and collectors will be heading off into the sunset as of (time, date, time zone). Remember to redeem your collectibles, or you may hold onto them until next year." (Sound ok?)

Secondly, I will ask if we can time it so that all holiday elements go away at the same time. I think that may not be possible, but I can sure ask. For instance, I know that the decorations are on a different timer than the collectors. One takes a build to remove; one does not. But perhaps we can code things to be more uniform, or maybe with more "warning" about how things happen, that won't even be necessary.

Again, very sorry for the frustrations that you felt, and I hope that overall you had a great Wintersday Festival.

Tullzinski · Jan 07, 2008, 03:36 AM // 03:36

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Sorry to hear about your concerns. Here's what I can tell you: The collectors were in place for 36 hours after the event finale. They were coded to go away at Noon Pacific on Wednesday. This was felt by the design team to be a sufficient amount of time for players to do last minute transactions. However... I do hear your two concerns:

There was no warning about the collectors leaving town
The shards continued to drop after you had a means to turn them in

I will pass along your thoughts on both of these situations. I think that we should include a "collector departure date" on the events page. Heck, we might even include it on the log-in screen, as one of the messages in the upper right. Something like: "NPCs and collectors will be heading off into the sunset as of (time, date, time zone). Remember to redeem your collectibles, or you may hold onto them until next year." (Sound ok?)

Secondly, I will ask if we can time it so that all holiday elements go away at the same time. I think that may not be possible, but I can sure ask. For instance, I know that the decorations are on a different timer than the collectors. One takes a build to remove; one does not. But perhaps we can code things to be more uniform, or maybe with more "warning" about how things happen, that won't even be necessary.

Again, very sorry for the frustrations that you felt, and I hope that overall you had a great Wintersday Festival.

Thanks for the info, I will just hold onto my 2400 shards till next year. Fortunately I have the room for em. That is a great idea for the notification on the collectors, or you could condiser a constant rule like; one week after the end of any event special item collectors remain to redeem items, then put the info on the wikis as notification.

Personette · Jan 07, 2008, 03:42 AM // 03:42

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

I will pass along your thoughts on both of these situations. I think that we should include a "collector departure date" on the events page. Heck, we might even include it on the log-in screen, as one of the messages in the upper right. Something like: "NPCs and collectors will be heading off into the sunset as of (time, date, time zone). Remember to redeem your collectibles, or you may hold onto them until next year." (Sound ok?)

This would be fantastic, particularly a message at the log-in screen.

VitisVinifera · Jan 07, 2008, 03:49 AM // 03:49

that's great Gaile, but you amazingly missed the most obvious point to this thread: put the collector back in

HayesA · Jan 07, 2008, 04:01 AM // 04:01

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Originally Posted by VitisVinifera

that's great Gaile, but you amazingly missed the most obvious point to this thread: put the collector back in

But at least we're getting an explination, and an apology from the company rep. How many companies do this? Does Blizzard reps come out, explain why it happened, offered some solutions for next time, and apologize all at the same time? (Hell, if at all.)

Thanks for the info, Gaile. Those warning systems sound like a great idea.

leprekan · Jan 07, 2008, 04:43 AM // 04:43

Excellent idea on a warning of event end at login. Communication is key.

Now if we could only get notification of ultra rare mini pets being in game with more than 24 hours notice! Yes still pissed about that

=HT=Ingram · Jan 07, 2008, 04:57 AM // 04:57

Ultimately the reason I always take from this is to prevent CC Shard farmers from exploiting the community to sell what was once easy to attain items at HUGE profit levels and thus exploiting the fact that the shards are not dropping anymore and yet there is a collector that takes them...

Thus making the idoits standing beside the collector saying WTS 5 CC shards for 1k! Give me a break. use em or loose em. Or bank em for next year. But don't expect Anet to just open the door to exploitation of the community.

Ephidel · Jan 07, 2008, 05:22 AM // 05:22

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Originally Posted by Tullzinski

Thanks for the info, I will just hold onto my 2400 shards till next year. Fortunately I have the room for em. That is a great idea for the notification on the collectors, or you could condiser a constant rule like; one week after the end of any event special item collectors remain to redeem items, then put the info on the wikis as notification.

Good grief! I'm glad what I have isn't even a stack. If I'd farmed shards like that my inventory would be dead.

By now I've come to terms with the fact that the collector isn't coming back any time soon (unless the entire community suddenly explodes with even more complaints about a problem that is now too many days old, which is highly unlikely at this point). I just hope the next time such an event is held it goes more smoothly. At least they're working on that.

Tullzinski · Jan 07, 2008, 11:51 PM // 23:51

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Originally Posted by Ephidel

Good grief! I'm glad what I have isn't even a stack. If I'd farmed shards like that my inventory would be dead.

By now I've come to terms with the fact that the collector isn't coming back any time soon (unless the entire community suddenly explodes with even more complaints about a problem that is now too many days old, which is highly unlikely at this point). I just hope the next time such an event is held it goes more smoothly. At least they're working on that.

It is funny as much as I did the two new quests not one mini polar bear, and as you can tell I did it alot.

Eviance · Jan 08, 2008, 12:21 AM // 00:21

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Originally Posted by Tullzinski

It is funny as much as I did the two new quests not one mini polar bear, and as you can tell I did it alot.

And that is just sad ;_;

Anyways, GLITTERING DUST HERE WE COME!